http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2cc51f28-1e2a-43f1-a1c8-34d07c9267cc okay dont be scared. taunton has a series on various machine including routers. its simple to build a table. dont be over whelmed. mine is laminated up from two layers of mdf, fit into my table saw extension side wing. i bought a roussue table plate and the template for installing it. now that i have confidence i might try using sheet lexan to build another one. as far as a fence goes i built mine out of mdf. its an L shape backed up with triangle supports to keep it square. its longer than the table and it just clamps to the table. check out american woodworker march 2003#99. thats where i got most of my plans for my table. just look online for free woodworking plans, dont go to the ones that are sponsered they try to get you to buy shit . try www.plans.3house.com i was looking at that link sight for scraper plane plans and they had router table plans. it really is simple to build one. ive also seen them made from kitchen counters , prelaminated ,heavey , no sag , you still would need a table insert, but think about that. once you get a table you are set. your imagination and buget for bits is the limit. ive made custom windows, trim ,siding and just wierd experimental routings with mine. as far a a router i have a dewalt 621 punge i got on sale ,it was a floor model at lowes, i use it as my hand held, i just bought a portercable with the variable speed(thats important) and the plunge and stationary base (thats hlpful) i got that from home depot and it was on sale, a floor model also. bosch is cool, but if your stuck with dewalt get something plunge, 2hp+ thats my opinion. and you said something about a miter stand , build one instead of those tube stands. ill take some pics of my chop table. good luck . if you need anymore of my advice for what its worth you can email me personally. good luck. Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:23:19 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2cc51f28-1e2a-43f1-a1c8-34d07c9267cc gorma cu 2006-09-13T04:23:19Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#391d21b0-56c0-4811-b38d-d8fbbec9d094 i found that its just easier to have two routers. One stays attached to the table, the other is free for whatever i need to do with it. Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:04:22 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#391d21b0-56c0-4811-b38d-d8fbbec9d094 Tommaso 2006-09-09T18:04:22Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#87fea652-ebd7-4659-999d-a27a579b32db hi brady, can you tell more about woodrat. i have seen the site many times and read many an ad in fine woodwoorking magazine. but how easy is it really? i mean, how long to change from mortise to tenon, how long to change from dovetail to tenon? how easy are the changes? also, for example, when i am in the middle of the project and am going from a dovetail joint to a dado. my mind is thinking of the project at hand and racing thru many things, i hate to be interrupted by a manual to use a machine on a different setup, this disturbs my chain of thought, how easy is the woodrat, is it user friendy, or like the leigh jigs (for me at least) i have to restudy the manual each time before use...... thanks, mark Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:35:37 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#87fea652-ebd7-4659-999d-a27a579b32db $item.owner.firstName 2006-09-09T15:35:37Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#1ed007a1-7b1b-49eb-b6e4-dc325ddbb8ba Go to www. woodrat.com It's all you need and more. b Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:46:09 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#1ed007a1-7b1b-49eb-b6e4-dc325ddbb8ba Brady 2006-09-09T01:46:09Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#78381740-3626-431a-8cc8-dc1d9a4de5a1 290???i meant to say 690 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:36:40 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#78381740-3626-431a-8cc8-dc1d9a4de5a1 Matty 2005-07-24T04:36:40Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2680f744-ce00-4f9d-935d-4043b1001a48 yeppers, porter cable is the goods. i have 4 290 motors, 3 plunge bases, and half a dizen fixed bases, i also have the spiffy new 890 with the d handle and plunge base. the cool thing about the 890 is that there is a small screw on the base that allows tou to raise and lower the routher when it is on the table from tabove, all you have to do is drill a teeny tiny hole in the table on the right location. all of these are set so that i can make templates and use the same bushings and bits and run production trim jobs. they last forever. :) Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:36:19 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2680f744-ce00-4f9d-935d-4043b1001a48 Matty 2005-07-24T04:36:19Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#6f1faf9f-ea49-4305-bb52-ed5ce0da26a9 i recomend vertical grained douglas fir...or strip laminated oak if you are feeling fancy Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:26:07 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#6f1faf9f-ea49-4305-bb52-ed5ce0da26a9 Matty 2005-07-24T04:26:07Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#06b0abc1-080a-4ae4-bbe8-a0ca8edbbec7 mortises and tennons are easy with tablesaw and drill press jigs......different thread Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:09:04 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#06b0abc1-080a-4ae4-bbe8-a0ca8edbbec7 Matty 2005-07-16T21:09:04Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#f3027b38-3ef7-4e47-9fff-589806f827ac i wouldnt buy a router table if my life depended on it. you are a woodworker, you can build one of your own, even if it is as simple as screwing a router base to the bottom of a piece of plywood, and fastening a joined board to the top.....premade router tables are for the birds in my opinion, you would be better server buying a real shaper machine...............all the pros i work with take pride in their own home made router tables...... Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:06:54 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#f3027b38-3ef7-4e47-9fff-589806f827ac Matty 2005-07-16T21:06:54Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#6bf72d7c-6c95-47ee-9df3-6ed76eb10fba it's funny (well, not really) how I'm loyal to some brands for certain tools: table saw: delta band saw: delta drill press: delta router: porter cable 12 v cordless drill: Milwaukee (I could any number of ways on this - the PC stuff looks nice) Jig Saw: Bosch Miter Saw: Ryobi you won't be able to use the "made by B&D" slam much longer, I'm afraid RK - they recently bought Pentair, parent company of Delta and Porter Cable. Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:23:27 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#6bf72d7c-6c95-47ee-9df3-6ed76eb10fba $item.owner.firstName 2005-07-02T01:23:27Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#0aec526e-0fd3-43a8-93ec-f8f5345736a4 I heartily agree with the Porter Cable recommendation. They also package a set which includes 1 motor and a fixed and a plunge base for around $200. I personally don't like DeWalt stuff. Their power tools are very pricey and kind of flimsy. Would you spend that much on a Black and Decker power tool, well who do you think makes DeWalt? Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:13:02 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#0aec526e-0fd3-43a8-93ec-f8f5345736a4 RK 2005-07-01T19:13:02Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2dd34350-af3b-421d-99ea-bc5c80fa62e8 LOL. welcome to the wonderful world of woodworking - 3 hours to make a jig for a 5 minute cut. the good news is that you'll get better at building jigs that have multiple uses. Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:22:16 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#2dd34350-af3b-421d-99ea-bc5c80fa62e8 $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-28T17:22:16Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#19ecb96f-2668-4c3d-8e0f-c0a196850d4c so I bought a book on working with routers. Damn. Now I'm scared. It seems that I'm going to need a table to do anything complicated -- such as mortises and tenons. But it also seems that for almost everything, I need to build some fancy jig or template. Sheesh. Maybe I should have taken up needlepoint. Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:44:36 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#19ecb96f-2668-4c3d-8e0f-c0a196850d4c $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-28T14:44:36Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#e7fe0ff7-5010-4e49-88c7-9a518d4f8b22 check out Rockler.com another good idea is to visit a woodworker's show if one comes to your town. I went to one in Chicago not long ago and I learned a ton. Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:58:57 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#e7fe0ff7-5010-4e49-88c7-9a518d4f8b22 $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-27T13:58:57Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#d343ffff-52eb-42f8-a578-adb7d1d8fb35 when it all boils down the fence is probably the most iomportant thing in a router table or table saw (excluding motor, housing, etc.) bosch recently came out with a router tabel that looks interesting, but there's no telling until you use the thing. Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:57:28 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#d343ffff-52eb-42f8-a578-adb7d1d8fb35 $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-27T13:57:28Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#157af896-60ff-488b-bda7-146abe91fd6d new here, but... when it comes to routers I've always used Porter Cable, and I've had very good results with them. they're tough, accurate and reliabel. I've got 2 - one fixed and one plunge. router tables are REALLY great tools, but I would caution against buying cheap. Porter Cable makes a good one, and building a table/cabinet to house it is a fun and easy project. I use mine on every project. roeb Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:56:09 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#157af896-60ff-488b-bda7-146abe91fd6d $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-27T13:56:09Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#05df6727-8ff2-49f6-9c61-429829e2f941 Hrmmm... I personally don't, but maybe one of the other dudes here does. Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:00:36 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#05df6727-8ff2-49f6-9c61-429829e2f941 Ken 2005-06-24T14:00:36Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#826bc478-dd08-41c9-8f9d-24bb84e4633d Do you have any brand recommendations? Anything in particular I should look for? One of my problems is that I don't really have the opportunity to test any products. (Another problem is that I don't know what the hell I'm doing.) Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:55:58 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#826bc478-dd08-41c9-8f9d-24bb84e4633d $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-23T15:55:58Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#cb6a2d60-efa5-4d96-a189-766ee8fd5c1a Well, part of the problem is, of course, that you can't make a fence that pleases everybody, keeps accuracy, and is inexpensive. Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:17:35 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#cb6a2d60-efa5-4d96-a189-766ee8fd5c1a Ken 2005-06-23T15:17:35Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#4e00843f-e7e7-4836-964d-a978dfd30aa5 When I read comments about router tables, most people complain about the fence. Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:14:28 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#4e00843f-e7e7-4836-964d-a978dfd30aa5 $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-23T14:14:28Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#a3a6ab2f-d1dc-4f2d-9fce-2b32adbf859b Well, you can always get the full table if you find you use it more often, or build legs for the workbench-table. The better the fence the more likely you are going to be able to use the router as a stand-in for a jointer and a shaper. Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:09:55 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#a3a6ab2f-d1dc-4f2d-9fce-2b32adbf859b Ken 2005-06-23T14:09:55Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#4bcf41c1-de41-42de-a792-717ad3144c8c I'm thinking of buying a Dewalt router with two bases and then a separate mitre table. I don't think I need a full table (at $250-300), but just the table that sits on my workbench. Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:16 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#4bcf41c1-de41-42de-a792-717ad3144c8c $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-22T14:48:16Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#baf5c6c7-deb1-4441-810c-ab49028a57ab I found the table part of it to be singularly useful. Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:41:39 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#baf5c6c7-deb1-4441-810c-ab49028a57ab Ken 2005-06-22T04:41:39Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#ab779971-01ef-4f81-a9ba-e37669c09c5e depends Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:04:00 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#ab779971-01ef-4f81-a9ba-e37669c09c5e Dirk 2005-06-21T19:04:00Z http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#49e2f473-8825-4641-8c5c-fcb815a3d9ab I got a refund check and decided to spring for the DeWalt 12" double-bevel mitre. What the hell. Hopefully I'll use it next week. Now I'm turning my attention to routers. Any recommendations? Do I need a router table? Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:34:31 GMT http://finewoodworking.tribe.net/thread/03076a35-90a9-427d-9a12-033465cdd5dc#49e2f473-8825-4641-8c5c-fcb815a3d9ab $item.owner.firstName 2005-06-21T16:34:31Z